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Written by:
Godfrey Smith
Thursday, June 10, 2010
Judicial balls. That is his most important attribute. Chief Justice Conteh fearlessly slaps down abusive government decisions, sometimes with Solomonic sensitivity to the damaged political egos.
They’re more important on a judge than erudition because errors can be corrected on appeal. But if a Chief Justice is afraid to rebuff governmental abuse, the Executive will emasculate the entire Judiciary.
It was upon the political “UDP headquarters case” that Dr. Conteh cut his judicial teeth. The freshly elected PUP Government alleged that the defeated UDP Government illegally gave to its party, gratis, land upon which it built its headquarters.
Though it was his first political case – a big one at that – he ruled against the government, ordering the UDP to pay the stamp duty on the land and incensing the PUP.
Though he was later reversed on appeal, he had established straightaway his credentials as a judge not afraid of the Executive.
Over the years he deftly cut down the overgrown hubris of ministers and officials, though it promptly grew back – and thicker than before.
He castigated the decision of a Minister of Budget Management who unconstitutionally tried to legislate away rights attaching to the golden share in the telephone company.
The Belize City Council enacted regulations limiting the height of fences in the city, then ripped down the fence of a reputed drug dealer. The Chief Justice ordered his fence rebuilt and awarded him $20,000 for the trauma of having had to watch his fence mown down by bulldozers.
Then there was the Commissioner of Police who he dragged over the judicial coals for collaborating with the U.S. D.E.A. agents in spiriting away drug don George Herbert outside of the extradition process.
The Minister for Customs was infuriated by his decision to reinstate Customs Officers Smith, Palacio and Recinos whose dismissals had been paraded as proof of a cleaning up of that department.
Nor was there any respite for judicial colleague, George Meerabux, who sought judicial review from the Chief Justice to stop an inquiry into his misbehavior by the Belize Advisory Council.
The Catholic Church, to its chagrin, discovered that the long arm of Conteh’s law easily scaled its lofty battlements of morality, forcing the Church to kneel before the altar of the Constitution.
The Church had dismissed teacher Maria Roches for getting pregnant out of wedlock; Conteh awarded her damages of $70,000 for being discriminated against.
Over the course of ten years, he developed a reputation among the general public as a judge who dispensed justice against government and upheld human rights and the rule of law.
Within the narrower legal circles, there were those who accused him of being a long-winded, intellectually pedantic judge whose decisions consciously coincided with the popular opinion on controversial cases.
But even his detractors will concede that he brings gravitas, fearlessness, intellectual depth and competence to the office of Chief Justice.
The general election of February 2008 ushered in a new government headed by Senior Counsel now Prime Minister, Dean Barrow, who had argued several of the successful cases against the fallen government.
He quickly discovered that the Chief Justice’s penchant for knocking ministerial decisions off their high, political pedestals had not abated.
In separate judgments, Dr. Conteh administered two resounding slaps to Mr.Barrow’s ballyhooed constitutional amendments.
In one judgment, he said the PM could not whittle down human rights without going to a referendum even though the government had repealed the relevant portion of the Referendum Act.
In the other, he set precedent in the Caribbean by ruling that certain constitutional provisions were so fundamental that not even a government with a super-majority, which the UDP had, could alter them.
The air audibly escaped from the balloon of hubris on which Mr. Barrow floated and as he slowly descended a few metres from the dizzying heights of infallibility, he resolved that Conteh had to go.
The Chief Justice deprived Mr. Barrow of the fruit of much desired political capital when he quashed the decision of the Magistrate that had committed former PM Musa to trial in the Supreme Court for theft.
Mr. Barrow knew the case against Mr. Musa was weak; the evidence shaky, but he nevertheless wanted the public to see Mr. Musa humiliated, handcuffed and tried before a judge and jury.
It was not until PM Barrow embarked on his Just War on Lord Ashcroft that the Executive actively begun muscling in on Dr. Conteh for control of the judicial system.
In levying war on Lord Ashcroft, the Prime Minister has flouted his government’s diplomatic, treaty and contractual obligations.
He justifies this by pleading “just cause”. It is in his mind a small, temporary sacrifice to rid Belize of a neo-colonial tyrant and restore nationalism.
The war is a costly, legal war of attrition whose primary battleground is the courts. In this all-consuming, zero-sum war, even the rule of law must be sacrificed to the national war effort.
Thus it was that strange phenomena began to be observed across the judicial landscape. The Executive now had “difficulty” with the Chief Justice continuing to control the assignment of cases to his judges.
They prefer if, it seems, if the cases can be assigned to particular judges from Belmopan, as it used to be done in the days before Conteh.
Cases are being assigned behind the back of the Chief Justice and cases fixed for trial are adjourned on a mere call from Belmopan.
This is a worrying development. Twelve years ago, not only were cases being assigned to particular judges from the capital, Belmopan, they were being written there too.
Justices of the Supreme Court should re-read the story of George Meerabux: The Judge Who Played Whore to the Politicians.
The politicians promised him the judicial throne to sack Chief Justice Sosa by ruling that he had been unconstitutionally appointed.
After Chief Justice Sosa was sacked, they fed the playful judge to the braying dogs of the Bar Association. He had been in bed with too many politicians.
With the departure of the Chief Justice, the judiciary will be castrated. There will be none left on the bench who would dare to challenge Executive authority.
The Bar should concern itself less with any perceived intrusion into Conteh’s tenure and more with how quickly this government could lay waste judicial independence, in the name of righteous action.
Chief Justice Conteh is a man of the world; he can take care of himself. Au revoir, doctor.
Copyright ©2010 Godfrey Smith
52 comment(s) so far...
Re: Après Moi, Le Déluge
Ahh, now I see why the PM wants to get rid of the CJ. Small man with balls, big man no balls!
By cojones on
Thursday, June 10, 2010
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Aha, but the PM should know this: A government should only make decisions they can live with in opposition!
By El Guatemalteco on
Thursday, June 10, 2010
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AAHHH! Now I understand what the CJ's leaving is all about!
By Pity/sad on
Thursday, June 10, 2010
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Governments in democracies the world over make Supreme Court appointments to suit the convenience of their agenda. This is no different nor is it wrong. The calculation of timeliness by the PM is smart since he is midterm with a still strong public support, a fractured opposition, and the need for decisive action over the next two years; with, at this point, a strong chance at a second term. The deciding issue will be the GOB 's response to crime and corruption, a response that will need a cooperative Judiciary that is not driven by indignant self-righteousness, but by a common cause for restoration of decency and law and order at the basic level.
By Plato on
Friday, June 11, 2010
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Nicely said Plato-and without all the strenuous use of fluff and big words, latin, French etc to show how smart the writer is. Does Godfrey even speak another language?
By life on
Friday, June 11, 2010
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It is no secret that Godfrey Smith is a bootlicker of Dr. Conteh. Here's a message for your overlord: NOBODY SUPPORTS YOU NOBODY PITIES YOU AND BELIZEANS HAVE RESPECT FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BEG FOR POWER.
By Odysseus on
Friday, June 11, 2010
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Plato, you are a fraud. Since when in a democracy you need 'cooperative" judges? I thought in a democracy one had to have an independent judiciary. Odysseus, you need to listen to Hubert Elrington some more so as to get a better understanding of your prime minister. The CJ admittedly is stubborn, but your prime minister is used to being surrounded by "sychophants" and cannot stand an independent mind and therein lies the problem.
By Truth seeker on
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
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What Plato said makes sense at first but does not pass the test of scrutiny. It is true that Governments the World over make judicial appointments to suit the convenience of their agenda. This is done in the United States and no secret is made of it. What he doesn't mention is that these democracies make appointments based on a shared philosphy or idealogy (as in the US - Conservative/Liberal) and not necessarily so that they can control the outcome of specific cases in which the government has an interest. The latter is the stuff of corrupt, backward third world so-called democracies. The Judiciary is the Third branch of our government and must enjoy Independence. It is ok for a government to appoint persons who share their philosophy (such as for or against the death penalty or other issues) but it is wrong for a government to appoint people who will tow the line and compromise the integrity of the Judiciary. As an example, it is ok for Obama to appoint Sotomayor due to the confluence of their idealogies but it would be totally unacceptable for him to call her and ask for a particular outcome in a specific case.
By SAID BARROW on
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
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On the real. The sign that Conteh is a good judge is that both political parties hated his guts while in office.
By the realist on
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
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Yezzai Realist!! And Said Barrow, you hit the nail on the head. The PM is not looking for persons with his ideology because he and his party have none, and neither does the PUP. The PM wants to appoint sycophants (thanks for that word Hubert) as judges who will "cooperate" with his hateful and corrupt and nepotistic agenda. Thank God for Hubert! I could say that a million times. Call him crazy (I sometimes do) and some call him the "Toothless one" but darn it Hubert speaks the truth even though he may be toothless. Remember "All glitter...", "We are heading for the reef..." And now "sycophants."
By Truth seeker on
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
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Agreed that cooperative may be the wrong choice of words. Belize, however, does not need a CJ that is more bent on showboating when the society needs guided justice (there I go again! "guided") in the situation we find ourselves with a 5% conviction rate on murder cases. A street where gangs will brazenly shoot enemies and robbery targets in the street, knowing they will be caught, and knowing they will get off. Com'n, can we afford self-righteousness when we need criminals behind bars and staying behind bars?
By Plato on
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
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Although my sentiments may not be popular with the idealists among us, the reality is that even in the most mature of democracies, there is guidance in justice. It is always hoped that those placed in the seats of justice will have a moral conscience to know right from wrong, not just what is right according to the loopholes in the law. Just yesterday, yet another 5 killers walked free because of a lapse inmour justice system at the most basic level. This independent judiciary led by the most immenent Dr. in concert with the political directorate should be focusing on closing those gaps. Yes we are a democracy, but until we reach a state of nirvana where rights are being fought for the benefit ofmgood people, we must adjust. The only rights being upheld today are those of gang members, murderers, drug dealers, croked politicians, and yes, business predators.
By Plato on
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
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Plato, blaming the state of crime in Belize on the judges is very flawed reasoning. The Justice system as far as the prosecution of crimes is concerned is dependent on the police and an effective DPP. The DPP and her Crown counsels have failed miserably in prosecuting a crime, not because of the judges, but one reason is the police's inability to gather evidence, because they lack a basic forensic lab and finger printing technology to enable them to prove (independent of eye witnesses who are afraid to testify) that an accused committed a crime. Your prime minister promised a DNA lab, and to date two and a half years later there is not even news that he is trying to procure one. Another reason is that your prime minister has chosen to invest his government resources in hiring private attorneys, at a hefty cost to tax payers, to represent the government and has not invested the same resources in the DPP or the police department. This year alone the budget of the judiciary was cut by BZD700,000.00, and Lois Young has been paid (from media reports) in excess of BZD1.5 million and counting, in legal fees for civil claims. This year's budget also saw a cut in the Police's budget, but no cut in the budget of the payment of private attorneys. So, please just don't cast blame on the judiciary, look your prime minister in the eye and ask him if he is really serious about crime.
By Truth seeker on
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
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Truth Seeker, You just supported my point. The gov has had to refocus resources to more capable private sector prosecutors that share the goals for public sector wins in the case of white collar corporate raiding, so far regaining BTL, recovering 20M in pirated public funds, as well as countless other savings from Ashcroft and other PUP sponsored piracy. Agreed that the Police and DPP need to be strengthened so that the wins can translate to street level crimes which are more dramatic but not even nearly as costly. The ideal team is a functional police crime unit, a capable prosecution unit, and a values driven judiciary, all on the side of the public good. I am optimistic that we are finally taking a direction to the benefit of the non-self interested stakeholders... The general taxpaying public.
By Plato on
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
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Truth Seeker, You just supported my point. The gov has had to refocus resources to more capable private sector prosecutors that share the goals for public sector wins in the case of white collar corporate raiding, so far regaining BTL, recovering 20M in pirated public funds, as well as countless other savings from Ashcroft and other PUP sponsored piracy. Agreed that the Police and DPP need to be strengthened so that the wins can translate to street level crimes which are more dramatic but not even nearly as costly. The ideal team is a functional police crime unit, a capable prosecution unit, and a values driven judiciary, all on the side of the public good. I am optimistic that we are finally taking a direction to the benefit of the non-self interested stakeholders... The general taxpaying public.
By Plato on
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
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Plato, I can't see how my statements reinforce your points. This self-righteousness of the UDP, your PM, and Lois Young has not translated into tangible benefits for the youth on the street and for the greater society in fighting crime. The only person who has benefited from the UDP and Lois' showboating has been your PM, Lois, Deanne, Anwar, Shyne, and so on and so forth. Acquiring BTL will be our worst mistake yet. As taxpayers we have not yet seen what the cost of that acquisition will amount to, and all we know is that in the meantime while the bills of that acquisition increase on a daily basis, Anwar is collecting director's fees and perhaps making money off side deals, Lois is collecting Secretary fees, and Deanne is collecting legal fees as BTL's lawyer. We have not seen a reduction on telephone rates as was promised, and this only underscores my point that the showboating is not paying dividends to the greater society. All in all, you are a good sport in trying to defend your PM's showboating, but just don't use scapegoats like blaming the judiciary as to why he has not yet been able to control crime because the reasoning just doesn't flow.
By Truth seeker on
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
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Interesting, very interesting! My little two cents folks.
The judiciary should remain independent at all cost. Often times we only appreciate the independence of the judiciary when we have been accused of crime we know deep in our hearts that we did not commit. Imagine being accused by the police of crime (which is not unheard of as of late) knowing fully well that you did not commit that crime and being sentenced by the CJ just because the crime of which you have been accused is one which cause public outrage. Surely we can't be advocating for our judges to ignore the law because if we do that then what shall protect us????
It would do us well to examine many of the failed states around the world, in so doing one would quickly see that invariably the road to such failure started with the erosion of the independent judiciary. I take this opportunity to advise all Belizeans that we must put Belize first, it is only in so doing that we can reach our full potential.
I found the article interesting and I would be equally interested in hearing the reason behind the Government's decision to so promptly move the CJ on...and the retirement age thing seems suspicious in my humble opinion.
If you note I used my real name, it would be good if others did the same. If we are indeed living in a real democracy there should be no need for us to be hiding behind pen names.
Take care Belize, I love you!
By Major Lloyd Jones on
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
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Truth Seeker, seek this! I won't even try to defend the apparent nepotism, that which is inevitable in a small society with limited qualified and trustworthy human resources. But I will say this; I prefer that the man is using people he trusts and who are delivering on what they are being paid to do, than the old practise of using debt-raised public funds to pay cronies for so much that we never got.
Maj Jones, I agree that we should protect independence AND EFFECTIVENESS in our judiciary, and I stress effectiveness. With independence comes responsibility to society, and in our current state, hat responsibility has to be to uphold the rights and freedom of law abiding people. Today's judiciary, including the police, the magistracy, the defense attorneys, the and the supreme court, has done a great job of upholding the rights of the criminal element; gangs, blue and white collar alike.
A move to replace independent but irresponsible with independent but responsible across the spectrum is an urgent step that has to be taken, and like any good CEO, the PM should fill roles with people that are on board with the need for public rights and public good to be placed first.
By Plato on
Thursday, June 17, 2010
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Plato, I gotta say you are a good sport and you have your PM's back, no matter what and no matter that it is at the public's expense. I am curious though, how has acquiring BTL contributed to the public interest? I have not seen the benefits. All I have seen is Anwar's picture on a billboard advertising BTL's Digicell and I would like to know how much he collected for that publicity stunt. I have seen BTL's ads and marketing paraphernalia being converted from purple to red, to promote the colours of the UDP. I am seeing BTL being treated as though it is a flagship for the UDP and not as a company owned by the public. If the PM acquired this company in the public interest, what is there to hide as to why he needs only political activist like Net Vasquez, Audrey Wallace, Anwar, Lois, (sycophants again to use Hubert's word) et al to sit on its Board. Why didn't he appoint citizens who maybe non-partisan who are truly committed to the country and not the UDP? No man, the acquisition was corporate raiding at its worst, and to date, there has been no action by the PM and BTL and its board to show that the acquisition was made in the public interest. I need not mention the international black eye we have had to suffer as a country as a result of this acquisition. Tell me, which strategic international investor has been lining up to invest in Belize or to even to purchase BTL, huh? None. When Ashcroft has exhausted all his legal remedies and the government has to pay him for that acquisition, it is not Lois and kids, the PM, nor Audrey Wallace who will have to pay that bill, it will be John Q Public and all. We may yet have to go into public debt to fund that bill, because that bill with interest is accruing by the day! In the end, what was all the showboating for and who got rich in during the showboating process? Lois and kids. Major Jones, you ask why the CJ's demitting office is being hastened? Well, from one of my lawyer friends, I have been told that he was to hear one of the SMART/BTL/DIGICELL disputes next week. You see, the insider dealing must go on inside BTL and SMART must be muscled out of the market, and the PM did not want the CJ to piss on the corporate raiding. What showboats that PM and Lois are?
By Truth seeker on
Thursday, June 17, 2010
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Truth Seeker, Clearly the only public protesting the CJ's procedural contract non-renewal (not illegal removal as was done in the cars of Mr. Sosa) are your attorney friends who thrive not from fees paid by law abiding citizens, but by blue collar and white collar criminals looking for loopholes exits to escape conviction. The PM is probably being viewed as a traitor to the brotherhood; how dare he actually put public needs above the need for high rate billable hours?
The Jury is still out on BTL, but at the end of it all, Belize's most profitable company is owned by the people of Belize and until it's all over, none of us can speculate on the outcome, but we can be assured that some of Belize's best legal minds are on our side, for the people of Belize. I still have no defense for nepotism, it is what it is.
By Plato on
Thursday, June 17, 2010
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Plato, it is amazing how you can put ignorance on display in such a majestic fashion. If you knew anything about the subject you would know that Attorneys in Belize do not make their money getting people to escape convictions in the criminal courts. The richest lawyers in Belize (the PM being one of them) have not even set foot in a criminal court in decades. The other point is that the refusal to extend the tenure of the Chief Justice will have absolutely no bearing on the billable hours of attorneys, somebody will take his place and attorneys will continue to charge their exhorbitant fees.
To you Truth Seeker I say that it makes absolutely no sense engaging in exchanges with people who fanatically support any political party because they are devoid of objectivity. Hard core UDP's cannot see and will never see that it is wrong to funnel 1.5 million dollars to the law firm of your ex wife and daughter when the work should be done by the office of the Solicitor General, or that it is wrong to appoint your son to the Board of a company that was nationalized amid controversy, or that it is wrong appoint your son (the convicted felon) as musical ambassador of our good country (when the real musical ambassadors are dying among us unrecognized), or that it is wrong for your wife, who serves no national purpose, to share the plush loftiness of the Whitfield Tower Penthouse on Coney Drive with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Truth be told this PM is no different from the previous one. His administration smells of corruption, Ministers give themselves and their families the contracts they take from hard working Belizeans. They give their families the government scholarships that should be for the poorest and most needy Belizeans. They use their government vehicles and fuel paid for from public funds to parade on our highways in tights. And nothing is done, why?, the example is set from the top! Corruption is corruption, no matter the scale!
Belize is doomed, our leaders cannot lead unless it's for themselves. Plato, you cannot get back at me for my comments in the usual political way by pointing fingers at the PUP and the ills of the past because I am not a PUP, I am a Belizean first and I do not turn my eyes to the wrongs of our leaders because of a colour (red or blue). The way the Chief Justice is being treated is unfair, he should be left to serve out his constitutional function with dignity! Like him or not, he has stood up for Belizeans in the face of oppression. Just ask Maria Roches what she thinks.
By SAID BARROW on
Friday, June 18, 2010
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SAID BARROW, you are spinning the typical PUP platform. I agree with Barrow take back BTL from Ashcroft. What good that man ever do for we. He get together with treacherous politicans Said, Ralph and Francis and sign secret contracts. That is the man's style. Its so sad how our own locals fight for his cause. Godfrey Smith is an example but it is not surprising because Smith has proven he is a man of no integrity. He did not scruple to take a free ride on the man's jet to Africa. Of all places you have Ashcroft take you back to your motherland.. wow.. Remember in the days of slavery when the colonial master would get the black natives to catch their brethren to turn into slaves? Same thing different era. And as for Dr. Conteh, like I said Smith is a bootlicker and in this latest article he's practically sucking the man's toes. It is time for a change and Dr. Conteh should not try to hold on to power.
By Odysseus on
Friday, June 18, 2010
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MAJOR LLOYD JONES YOU ARE AN IDIOT. You think it's suspicious that Conteh reached the retirement age? That is a fact. How could it be suspicious that the man was born in 1945 and therefore turns 65 in 2010. How could it be suspicous that our Constitution says that judges retire at age 65? You think the Government planned all of this huh...It would have been better if you used a penn name rather than assign your name to that crap.
By Little Plato on
Friday, June 18, 2010
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Wow, if Plato's people had the best legal team, why do they need cooperative judges?
Odysseus, you know what was the worst thing about slavery, it was our same African brothers who captured us to sell us to the white man. The reason I bring this us is because it is the almighty PM and Lois (who call themselves black) who are enslaving us, and getting rich in the process. Think about it, brethren.
By Brah on
Friday, June 18, 2010
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I fully support what Plato said about what the PUP's have called nepotism. This is a small society. We have 300,000 people and out of that about less than 5% are college educated. Where is Barrow going to find the qualified and trustworthy people. Truthseeker would want him to pick them out of the PUP so they can sabotage and undermine the Government but you see Barrow is not a guillible idiot like the leader of the PUP. I agree with Barrow putting people with the skills in high places. As for Lois she is one of the best attorney in Belize and now Mr. Pitts can step in and take over. And as for your dig at the PM's son, yes he went to prison and serve his time. That is what life is all about. You make mistakes, you pay for it, and you are a better person in the end. I watch him on TV and I can say he is truly inspiring. He always has a positive message. You sound like a petty HATER when you take offence over the fact that he is the musical ambassador. BIG UP SHYNE!
By BELIZE FIRST on
Friday, June 18, 2010
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I fully support what Plato said about what the PUP's have called nepotism. This is a small society. We have 300,000 people and out of that about less than 5% are college educated. Where is Barrow going to find the qualified and trustworthy people. Truthseeker would want him to pick them out of the PUP so they can sabotage and undermine the Government but you see Barrow is not a guillible idiot like the leader of the PUP. I agree with Barrow putting people with the skills in high places. As for Lois she is one of the best attorney in Belize and now Mr. Pitts can step in and take over. And as for your dig at the PM's son, yes he went to prison and serve his time. That is what life is all about. You make mistakes, you pay for it, and you are a better person in the end. I watch him on TV and I can say he is truly inspiring. He always has a positive message. You sound like a petty HATER when you take offence over the fact that he is the musical ambassador. BIG UP SHYNE!
By BELIZE FIRST on
Friday, June 18, 2010
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Hello All, As a Belizean-American, Bel-am, I have to say this discussion seems very interesting. However, it is very PUP vs. UDP and vica versa, so I will add my 2 cents like somebody said before:
I did see it reported on the news that the UDP have won the Village Council elections and it was a pretty good margin too. If this is a true idicator of the people's pulse, then the majority of Belizeans are still with the UDP and the PUP need to re-think how they will turn things around for themselves. Just my thinking.
By Keyshia on
Friday, June 18, 2010
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Belize First, I agree with one thing you said: that as a small country we are short on talent. Take one look at the Barrow Cabinet and that is as lucid as day! If because I disapprove of the appointment of the ex convict Shyne, jamal, levy (whatever his name is) as our musical ambassador means I am a petty hater then I guess I am. Call me hater then, I hate the fact that it was not Brother David, or Mr. Peters or Lord Rhaburn, or even Ivan Duran who have done so much more for music in this country than the seed of Barrow. Unlike you, I watch him on tv and I see a bad role model for our youth and I see him say over and over that he does not have to be here, he could be in Japan, or England or Cayman. Those comments are very reminiscent of another one of our so called leaders. By the way life is not "all about" shooting people indiscriminately in a night club and going to jail and then being named a representative of your country by your father the Prime Minister.
On another note, if you feel that Pitts has the acumen to "take over" from Lois you are sadly mistaken my friend.
By SAID BARROW on
Friday, June 18, 2010
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I need a drink because Barrow and family are still running this country and life has not improved for the most of us. Pitts is now Attorney General (like WTF). Did anyone see Shyne at Mr. Peter's funeral. Shouldn't the Musical Ambassador attend those things? I have to agree with Belize First that Lois is the best, though. She cream off the PUP, pretending she was one of them, and she now creaming off the UDP like she has always been one of them. Lata, I'll be at Birds Isle if anyone cares to join me.
By Bar hopper on
Friday, June 18, 2010
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One only needs to understand Dr. Conteh's past to understand why he is being so defended by the PUP members of the bar. Dr. Conteh's is cut from the same cloth. Most Belizeans do not know that he fled Sierra Leone as the former Vice President after his government was put out of office following allegations of massive corruption and diversion of public funds to Swiss banks. Don't we deserve better for Belize, don't we deserve a Belizean CJ that is of a higher moral standard, and that understands what Belize needs today? Read the article from Britain's Independent newspaper from 1992, where it was indicated that Dr. Conteh was refused asylum in Britain following the coup, because the foreign office determined that he was corrupt:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/african-politician-seeking-asylum-seen-as-corrupt-1532023.html
By Plato on
Saturday, June 19, 2010
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Plato, why you need to go back 18 years to Sierra Leon? To judge him in Belize, we need to look at what he did here in BElize.
By Ninja on
Saturday, June 19, 2010
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One only needs to understand Dr. Conteh's past to understand why he is being so defended by the PUP members of the bar. Dr. Conteh's is cut from the same cloth. Most Belizeans do not know that he fled Sierra Leone as the former Vice President after his government was put out of office following allegations of massive corruption and diversion of public funds to Swiss banks. Don't we deserve better for Belize, don't we deserve a Belizean CJ that is of a higher moral standard, and that understands what Belize needs today? Read the article from Britain's Independent newspaper from 1992, where it was indicated that Dr. Conteh was refused asylum in Britain following the coup, because the foreign office determined that he was corrupt:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/african-politician-seeking-asylum-seen-as-corrupt-1532023.html
By Plato on
Saturday, June 19, 2010
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Plato, how come you weren't complaining about his role in Sierra Leone when Dean Zero won everything he sought before the Chief JUstice whilst in opposition?
By SAID BARROW on
Monday, June 21, 2010
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Little Plato, you seem so angry! I guess you expect everybody to agree with you or its war huh? You have me wondering about the little in your name.
No one is disputing the CJ's age, its the manner in which he has been shown the door that is of concern to people. Other judges have been given extensions as provided for in the law so if the government wanted to do the same for the CJ it could have done so. The PM and the government have every right not to extend the CJ's tenure if they so choose, I'd just rather they say so than trying to pass it off as a simiply question of the CJ reaching retirement age. That is all I am saying.
And please stop with the insults it distracts from the mature discourse that this forum is suppose to inspire!
I love you Belize!
By Major Jones on
Monday, June 21, 2010
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For all of you that missed the point . . . "Le Deluge" (the flood) is a metaphor for the impending revolution.
When I was young(er) I would boast that Belize is the only country in Central America that was spared the indignity of civil war . . . it turns out, we will simply be one of the last to go through this "right of passage" that has haunted our neighbors.
By Belizean in Foreign on
Wednesday, June 23, 2010
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Belizean in Foreign, we are already in a flood of biblical proportions which rivals that of Noah's time. We are drowning in billions of dollars worth of death caused by Le Deluge du Said Musa and are now suffering by the Deluge of the little Mugabe Dictator Dean Barrow!
By SAID BARROW on
Wednesday, June 23, 2010
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Said Barrow... you can't spell!
By Little Plato on
Wednesday, June 23, 2010
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Little Plato, I da man nuh like to hurl personal insults to other bloggers but in this case I going to make an exception:...yu ah eeediat? yu cyant see that mi intentional?
By SAID BARROW on
Wednesday, June 23, 2010
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Mugabe just got a boost with the huge diamond find in Zimbabwe, there may be hope, unless Oceana Audrey continues to piss on that parade.
By Plato on
Friday, June 25, 2010
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Oceana Audrey need fi put een wah filter between her brains and her mouth!
By SAID BARROW on
Friday, June 25, 2010
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Go Audrey! Go Audrey! Go Audrey! The last thing we need is an entrenched Mugabe! Go Audrey! Go Audrey! We do not want oil drilling under this Prime Minister! Go Audrey! Go Audrey! Go Audrey!
By Cheerleader on
Friday, June 25, 2010
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Great suggestion Cheerleader, let's wait to destroy our marine environment in the quest for national wealth until the PUP thieves are in position to benefit and steal it all.
By Plato on
Saturday, June 26, 2010
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Conteh being asked to step aside is no big deal. He has reached retirement age and it is for the Prime Minister to decide who will be the next chief justice. What is bad is the way in which the matter was handled. Conteh ought to have been given the time to finish his cases as is provided in the Constitution.
There is nothing sinister in having a new chief justice after Conteh.
I think mentioning the ideological dialectic is not even relevant. Our system of selecting judges is more British than American. Everyone knows that judges in England are not known to be political, and if they are, they are professional enough to draw the line between law and politics. It matters not what a judge's political persuasions are. Judges decide matters based on law, not popularity among the masses or a need to satisfy the public's desires.
To spout the weightless talk of Barrow wanting an incompetent "UDP judge" on the Chief Justice's chair is silly. Name the "UDP judge", and you will be able to back him/her up with the highest praise as a man/woman of the law.
Godfrey Smith et al would have people believe that Conteh is the lifeblood of Belize's judiciary, but one has to consider the fact that Godfrey is one of the CJ's favoured boys. Godfrey knows that if either Justice of Appeal Sosa or Justice of Appeal Barrow is given the post (though the latter is HIGHLY unlikely even thought the PUPs are stupid enough to not know this), either would be appropriate.
When Godfrey's former law partner Magali Marin-Young was asked how is it that she was not elevated to the rank of Senior Counsel while Godfrey and Lisa Shoman were, her reply was, in the form of a question: " You think I will kiss the CJ's behind just for a title?"
By RAGM on
Saturday, June 26, 2010
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I wonder if the Bar Association would be happy with Sosa J. on the CJ's bench, really? I wonder how he behaves on the Court of Appeal bench? Did he take the opportunity as a Court of Appeal judge to establish a name for himself as a superb jurist or did he spend the time stewing in his bitterness over his removal? Before I accept that Sosa J is a good judge with superb abilities, I would like a bar member to answer these questions.
By Tweety bird on
Monday, June 28, 2010
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FEE FAI FO FUM, I smell UDP scum!!!
By SAID BARROW on
Wednesday, June 30, 2010
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Did Conteh establish himself as a respected jurist before becoming CJ, though? Six years before taking on the role as CJ of Belize he was First Vice President and Minister of Internal Affairs in the Sierra Leone Government and was Political officer for UNTAET between 1999 and 2000. I have seen no record of Conteh serving as a judge in any other country before becoming Chief Justice here.
Also, the PUP, who removed Sosa, supposedly had no problem with his qualifications, only the manner in which he was appointed. For certain, they must have known that Sosa was qualified since THEY were the ones who appointed him to the Court of Appeal.
Why would anyone want the highly political Bar Association to comment? Most of the persons we are hearing anything from are either tainted by politics or loyalty to Ashcroft ie Andrew Marshalleck SC, which is the same as saying anti-UDP.
By RAGM on
Friday, July 02, 2010
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The Bar Association is mongrel with all bark and no bite be it PUP or UDP members, they all balance out each other to the state of nothingness!
By SAID BARROW on
Monday, July 05, 2010
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What do you call all members of the Belize Bar Association at the bottom of the ocean?... a good start
By the realist on
Monday, July 05, 2010
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What's the difference between a lawyer and a bucket of doodoo? ...........You guessed it if you said "the bucket".
By SAID BARROW on
Monday, July 05, 2010
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What's the difference between a good lawyer and a great lawyer?
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A good lawyer knows the law; a great lawyer knows the Judge!
By Plato on
Monday, July 05, 2010
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What’s the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?
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One is a slimy, bottom dwelling, scum sucker. The other is a fish.
By Plato on
Monday, July 05, 2010
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What's one similarity between a lawyer and the neighbourhood mongrel aka pot licka? ......They both chase ambulances!
By Said Barrow on
Tuesday, July 06, 2010
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